Ropecon 2008 ECQ

The annual Ropecon VTES tournament on August 8th was also an EC qualifier this year. We had a grand total of 83 players, which is a step down from last year's 88 but still a hell of a lot of people.

Things went very smoothly this year. We were back in the main hall area, so there was (more or less) enough oxygen for everyone though it was crowded, as always. Due to the high number of pre-registrations there was extremely little hassle at startup time, and I mananged to get all the tables going at around 6:15pm, nicely on schedule. A big thanks to all the players, once again, for making this a very pleasant tournament to run. There was the usual bunch of rules questions, but nothing came up that totally stumped me – of course, having the complete rulings set and list of current card texts available on the laptop helps more than a bit.

As usual, the variety in decks was huge, and I can't claim to have any sort of overview on what people played this year; I saw all kinds of decks while observing the table play. I don't remember seeing too many Anarch decks with the new cards, I guess that tech is still so new that people aren't familiar enough with it to try it out in a big tournament. Most of the decks in the finals were very fast decks, for what it's worth.

The tournament win this year went to Lasse Pöyry, playing a fairly traditional (but very efficient) Lasombra bleed machine. Unlike last year's Great Lasombra Fest, Lasse's deck was the only Lasombra one in the finals. The finals were fun to watch, with the first six rounds going very fast and people dropping left and right… and then Kari and Lasse settling down for a Nephandi vs Lasombra war of attrition. The final round ended in a draw, Lasse took tournament win due to higher preliminary scoring.

21 players received EC qualifications and also a spiffy ECQ t-shirt (thanks to White Wolf), and also thanks to WW we had a nice pile of boosters and some other stuff for the finalists (Fantasiapelit also donated some gift certificates, thanks in that direction also). Everyone in the tournament got a nice pile of promo cards, and in general I got the feeling people were pretty happy with everything.

We had quite a few “oldtimers” returning to the game, and Juho Linna made it to the finals even though he hasn't played much at all for 3-4 years (as far as I know). We also had one of our first international visitors, with Hugh Angseesing trying to lay down the U.K. smackdown on the Finns (with little success). He did get his revenge during the next day's draft tournament, though. :)

See below for full results, finalist deck lists, a transcript of the final round, and some more pictures.

– Petri “Orava” Wessman

Players and results

The first 21 players (shown in bold type below) got EC qualifications.

Rank Name Prelim GWs Prelim VPs Final VPs Deck/comment
1 Lasse Pöyry 2 8.5 2 Lasombra Capitalists
2 Kari Vieno 2 7 2 Nephandi Rules!
3 Juho Linna 2 8 1 Obfuscate + Dominate
4 Juhani Puska 3 12 0 Kill Fast or Die Fast
5 Antti Tirilä 2 8 0 Loss Bleed
6 Miika Karmitsa 2 6 “Let the Beast Man win”
7 Heikki Palomäki 1 8 “Madness of Authority”
8 Henri Ketonen 1 6.5 “Domppa”
9 Tuukka Kallas 1 6 “Violently Mad”
10 Timo Rekola 1 6 “Ventrue (something) and S/B”
11 Touko Kästämä 1 6 “Ninja School”
12 Kari Mäkinen 1 6
13 Peter Kaario 1 5.5 “same as last year”
14 Tomi Parkkonen 1 5.5
15 Juha Ivanoff 1 5
16 Niko Heinonen 1 5
17 Tommi Hakomaa 1 4.5
18 Seppo Lipponen 1 4.5
19 Tuomas Nyberg 1 4.5 “Malkavian FTW”
20 Arsi Järvinen 1 4
21 Jaakko Penttinen 1 4
22 Tuomas Vuokko 1 4
22 Are Vaskela 1 4
24 Juho Vuorikoski 1 4 “Suicide Kings v2.0”
24 Janne Kilpi 1 4 “Nosferatu vote”
26 Joni Huumonen 1 4
27 Ville Saaristo 1 3.5 “Pala leipää maksaa 5mk”
27 Lauri Salmi 1 3.5
29 Marko Lindroos 1 3.5
30 Otto Kukkasniemi 1 3 “Nephilim on paska bändi”
31 Yann Irissou 1 2.5
32 Janne Lönnqvist 1 2.5
33 Teemu Sainomaa 0 4
34 Taija Sainomaa 0 4
35 Jarkko Suvela 0 3.5 “Paskat Ishtrarrit ry”
36 Ari Lensu 0 3.5 “As We Die”
37 Jari Mäkikyrö 0 2.5
38 Toni Karjalainen 0 2.5
39 Pasi Karjalainen 0 2.5
40 Otso Turunen 0 2
41 Kirmo Lassheikki 0 2
42 Johan Wahlström 0 2
43 Antti Horelli 0 2
43 Jaakko Liemola 0 2 “No Secrets from the Assamites”
45 Marko Saari 0 2
46 Sami Dadu 0 1.5 “Cripple Force”
46 Heikki Parviainen 0 1.5
46 Petteri Moisio 0 1.5
46 Kimmo Pekkola 0 1.5
46 Aleksi Nuora 0 1.5
46 Eemil Lagerspetz 0 1.5
46 Ville Kaijasaari 0 1.5
53 Harri Hakkarainen 0 1.5
54 Jouko Loijas 0 1
55 Petteri Teerikangas 0 1
56 Jussi Hattara 0 1 "Power of Jacko's Leathers"
56 Johannes Leppä 0 1
58 Mikko Moisander 0 1 “Aggravated Assamites”
59 Jussi Ranta 0 1
60 Mikko Hyvärinen 0 0.5
60 Lasse Gustafsson 0 0.5
62 Matti Palomäki 0 0.5 “Akvaarion lasi vääristää perspektiivin”
62 Henri Halonen 0 0.5 “The Vittupäät”
62 Mika Nurmikolu 0 0.5
62 Antero Hakala 0 0.5 “No! Is Elimelech!”
62 Mikko Inkinen 0 0.5 “Tai sit nolla”
62 Akseli Jalava 0 0.5
68 Jukka Lindström 0 0.5 “Tällä ei voiteta”
69 Otso Saariluoma 0 0.5
70 Oskari Rautiainen 0 0
71 Antti Iivari 0 0
72 Jari Vulli 0 0
73 Hugh Angseesing 0 0
73 Markus Inkeri 0 0
75 Raymond Mäkeläinen 0 0 “Vintage”
75 Arto Heinonen 0 0 “The 0 VP deck”
75 Niko Vanhatalo 0 0 “Triple A”
78 Ari-Pekka Alestalo 0 0
78 Aarni Suvitie 0 0
78 Tom Lindberg 0 0
78 Jukka Karvonen 0 0 “Hector Multifail”
82 Kalle Cederström 0 0
DQ Elias Maliniemi 0 1 “Kiasyd - TB”

(Elias Maliniemi has a “disqualified” flag because he left for the pub and didn't attend the last round of the game)


Below are deck lists for all the finalists.

Tournament Winner

Lasombra Capitalists


My last big tournament was EC07 in which I played Lucretia &
Spider-Killer DoC Concert Tour deck with Tariq and Spiridonas as
sidekicks. I was the last. I realised that Life Boon as the main
method of getting VP's is not solid enough to win titles (I also
find out that there is a card called Blood Trade in this
game). So, this time I decided to go with dominate.

Deck Name:   Lasombra capitalists
Created By:  Lasse Pöyry

Description: Trying to bleed without spending all the blood from
my vampires. It is good to be blocked every now and then so you
are not seen as a table threat.

/* I made this deck in 30 minutes and there are some second best
solutions just because of my unfortunate but self-inflicted time
constraint */

Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 20, Max: 31, Avg: 6,33)
 1  Anton de Concepcion              aus ANI DOM OBT POT9  Lasombra
 1  Conrad Adoula                    ani cel DOM OBT POT8  Lasombra
 1  Henri Lavenant                   pot qui DOM OBT  7  Lasombra
 1  Tobias Smith                     pot DOM OBT PRE  7  Lasombra
 1  Lord Vauxhall                    DOM OBT POT THA  7  Lasombra
 1  Black Wallace                    obt tha DOM POT  6  Lasombra
 1  Virginie                         obt DOM POT      6  Lasombra
 1  Onaedo                           aus pot DOM OBT  6  Lasombra
 1  Andrew Emory                     aus dom pot OBT  5  Lasombra
 1  Ermenegildo                      pot DOM OBT      5  Lasombra
 1  Banjoko                          obt pot DOM      5  Lasombra
 1  Dame Hollerton                   myt DOM OBT      5  Kiasyd

/* Bottom heavy line of capacities. I'm quite happy with my
choices here */

Library: (90 cards)
Master (13 cards)
 4  Vessel
 4 Capitalist /* I didn't get this vessel-capitalist thing to
 work as well as I thought, but I still think the idea is sound */
 1  Grooming the Protege
 1  Slave Auction
 1  Political Hunting Ground
 1  Path of Night, The
 1  Elysian Fields

/* Could do without all the Lasombra-masters */

Action (15 cards)
 8  Scouting Mission
 6  Govern the Unaligned
 1  Graverobbing

/* I was suprised to not be able to actually use the
Graverobbing. I was expecting much more violent behavior. */

Action Modifier (24 cards)
 3  Seduction
 6  Threats
 3  Bonding
 2  Conditioning
 3 Shroud of Night /* Should definitely be Shroud of Absence. I
 think I only have one and that wasn't in my obtenebrations cards
 pile */
 5  Shadow Play
 1  Tenebrous Form
 1 Tangle Atropos` Hand /* Didn't use this one, I had to include
 it because I have just this one copy and I had never played it
 before */

Reaction (16 cards)
 3 On the Qui Vive /* Should have had more. All my other OtQV's
 were in different decks and I didn't have time to go through
 them (or I just was lazy and figured that wakes will do) */
 4  Wake with Evening`s Freshness
 5  Redirection
 4  Deflection

Combat (16 cards)
 10 Arms of the Abyss
 4  Entombment
 2  Disarm

/* Free dodge with additional strike is so strong. Actually I was
planning to get blocked every once in a while and thats why I
have more combat cards than stealth. */

Ally (6 cards)
 6  Nocturn

/* These were supposed to be cannon fodder but I dealt
differently with rush decks (in round 1 I gave Beast one hour to
go forward and get an oust before trying to oust its
controller. A deal that was worth it for both of us I think). But
they actually served as offence and in the final table Nocturns
finished both of my ousts in a single turn. */

/* Card flow was decent and I was quite happy with the balance
between modifiers and combat cards. The deck in itself isn't very
clever or anything, but 38 dominate cards seems to get the work
done. */


Nephandi Rules

Deck Name : Nephandi rules
Author : Kari Vieno

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 5 average: 4

5x Antonio d'Erlette     5  THA dom for pot   !Tremere:4
2x Keith Moody           3  DOM               !Tremere:4
1x Janine                4  aus dom tha       !Tremere:4
1x Mosfair               4  cel dom tha       !Tremere:4
1x Ehrich Weiss          3  dom tha           Tremere:3
1x Ember Wright          3  aus dom           !Tremere:3
1x Saiz                  3  aus dom           !Tremere:3

Library [82 cards]
Action [8]
  1x Aranthebes, The Immortal
  6x Computer Hacking
  1x New Management

Action Modifier [9]
  1x Conditioning
  6x Empowering the Puppet King
  2x Leverage

Ally [9]
  7x Nephandus (Mage)
  1x Ossian
  1x Vagabond Mystic

Combat [12]
  8x Concealed Weapon
  2x Dodge
  1x Molotov Cocktail
  1x Target Hand

Equipment [8]
  8x Flash Grenade

Event [2]
  1x FBI Special Affairs Division
  1x Unmasking, The

Master [16]
  4x Blood Doll
  2x Direct Intervention
  2x Dreams of the Sphinx
  1x Jake Washington (Hunter)
  3x Life in the City
  1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
  1x University Hunting Ground
  2x Wash

Reaction [18]
  8x Deflection
  4x Delaying Tactics
  5x On the Qui Vive
  1x Wake with Evening's Freshness

Obf + Dom

creator: Juho Linna

Same deck as I played 4 years ago in Ropecon. The non-master cards all say
either "+stealth", "+bleed" or a combination. I left out all
bounce because I felt it had too much opportunity cost, and have
been happy with that decision. From the new cards, I'd add a few
copies of "Murmur of the False Will" and "Leverage".

1 Mustafa       2 dom
1 Ohanna        2 dom
1 Samson        2 dom
1 Christine     2 dom
1 Ingrid        4 DOM
1 Gloria        4 DOM
1 Count Ormonde 5 dom,OBF
1 Badr al-Budur 5 dom,OBF
1 Zebulon       5 dom,OBF
1 Didi Meyers   5 DOM,obf
1 Gilbert       7 DOM,OBF
1 Mariel        7 DOM,OBF


6 Dominate
3 Misdirection
2 Anarch Troublemaker

12 GtU
7 Scouting Mission

action modifier(60):
9 Command of the Beast
8 Seduction
8 Conditioning
7 Bonding
3 Foreshadowing Destr.
3 Threats
9 Cloak the Gathering
5 Faceless Night
5 Mask of 1k Faces
3 Lost in Crowds

Kill Fast or Die Fast

Deck Name : kill fast or die fast - at least I get my lunch break
Author : Juhani Puska

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 5 average: 1.91667
1x Calebros, The Mart     5  ANI obf pot  prince Nosferatu:2
1x Volker, The Puppet     5  CEL pot      prince Brujah:2
1x KoKo                   2  pot                 Nosferatu:1
1x Lupo                   2  pot                 Brujah:1
1x Vasilis, The Trait     2  pre                 Brujah:2
1x Antoinette DuChamp     1  cel pre             Caitiff:2
1x Franciscus             1  aus                 Caitiff:2
1x Hasina Kesi            1  pot                 Caitiff:1
1x Julius                 1  qui ser             Caitiff:2
1x Navar McClaren         1  ani                 Caitiff:1
1x Nik                    1  cel                 Caitiff:1
1x Smudge the Ignored     1                     Caitiff:1

Library [60 cards]
Action Modifier [8]
  3x Change of Target
  3x Closed Session
  2x Cryptic Rider

Ally [2]
  2x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)

Combat [4]
  4x Dodge

Master [12]
  1x Archon Investigation
  1x Creepshow Casino
  1x Dreams of the Sphinx
  1x Fear of Mekhet
  3x Information Highway
  3x Life in the City
  1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
  1x Powerbase: Rome

Political Action [34]
  2x Disputed Territory
  1x Justicar Retribution
  23x Kine Resources Contested
  1x Praxis Seizure: Amsterdam
  1x Praxis Seizure: Barcelona
  1x Praxis Seizure: Brussels
  1x Praxis Seizure: Chicago
  1x Praxis Seizure: Cleveland
  1x Praxis Seizure: Miami
  1x Praxis Seizure: Rome
  1x Praxis Seizure: Stockholm

Loss Bleed

creator: Antti Tirilä

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 7 average: 5

2x Olugbenga              7  OBF QUI ani cel  magaji Assamite:4
2x Hafsa, The Watcher     6  OBF QUI aus cel         Assamite:5
2x Vardar Vardarian       6  OBF QUI cel pre         Assamite:4
2x Kamau Jafari           4  QUI obf                 Assamite:4
1x Reza Fatir, The Da     6  CEL QUI obf pro         Assamite:4
1x Layla bint-Nadr        5  CEL OBF qui             Assamite:4
1x Alu                    2  obf                     Assamite:5
1x Basir                  1  qui                     Assamite:4

Library [90 cards]

Action [28]
  2x Embrace, The
  9x Haqim's Law: Leadership
  3x Khabar: Glory
  13x Loss
  1x Web of Knives Recruit

Action Modifier [27]
  4x Cloak the Gathering
  6x Elder Impersonation
  5x Faceless Night
  5x Lost in Crowds
  1x Marked Path
  5x Spying Mission
  1x Veil the Legions

Action Modifier/Combat [6]
  6x Swallowed by the Night

Event [1]
  1x Narrow Minds

Master [18]
  5x Alamut
  1x Black Throne, The
  1x Direct Intervention
  3x Dreams of the Sphinx
  1x Giant's Blood
  1x Powerbase: Zurich
  1x Underworld Hunting Ground
  3x Vessel
  2x Yoruba Shrine

Political Action [10]
  5x Consanguineous Boon
  5x Kine Resources Contested 

Final Round Transcript

This is a record of the final round, it does not include every little thing but should contain all the relevant bits.

The final round started at 1am. We agreed on the standard 2h time limit, since everyone felt that it should be enough to resolve things.

The players were (in seating order):

  1. Juhani Puska
  2. Antti Tirilä
  3. Kari Vieno
  4. Lasse Pöyry
  5. Juho Linna

Round 1


  • play Info Highway
  • bring out Julius, Smudge


  • transfer


  • play Dreams, use it to add pool to uncontrolled.
  • bring out Keith Moody


  • transfer


  • transfer

Round 2


  • Life in the City on Smudge
  • Smudge calls KRC for 3:1, passes
  • bring out Vasilis the Traitor of Don Cruez, Calebros the Martyr


  • bring out Hafsa, The Watcher


  • use Dreams to add pool to uncontrolled
  • Keith gets Nephandus
  • bring out Antonio d'Erlette


  • bring out Henti Lavenant


  • bring out Christine Boscacci

Round 3


  • Vasilis calls KRC 3:1, passes, adds Cryptic Rider
  • Smudge calls Praxis Amsterdam, passes automatically
  • Julius calls KRC 3:1, passes
  • Calebros bleeds for 1
  • pay 1 for new vampire


  • play Alamut
  • Hafsa steals Calebros' title, plays Marked Path on that


  • use Dreams for +2 hand size, Dreams burns
  • Blood Doll on Antonio
  • Keith gets Nephandus
  • bring out Nephandus (Antonio's special)


  • Vessel on Henri, burn Kari's Doll
  • Henri Governs down
  • bring out Virginie, Prodigy


  • Christine bleeds with Scouting Mission + Bonding = bleed of 3
  • bring out Mariel, Lady Thunder

Round 4


  • Vasilis bleeds for 1
  • Smudge calls KRC 3 to Antti, 1 to Kari, vote fails
  • Julius calls KRC, DI from Antti
  • Julius bleeds for 1
  • Calebros calls Disputerd Territory to steal Alamut, passes
  • bring out Volker, Puppet Prince


  • Hafsa plays Khabar: Glory
  • Hafsa bleeds for 2, blocked, stealth, gets bounced to Lasse, gets bounced onwards to Juho, bleed ok


  • Blood Doll on Antonio
  • Nephandus plays Aranthebes
  • Nephandus Computer Hacks for 2, Virginie wakes and blocks, burns Nephandus with Entombment
  • Nephandus bleeds, gets +1 from Empowering the Puppet King, bleed of 2 ok
  • Keith bleeds, Henri blocks
  • Antonio hunts
  • bring out Nephandus (Antonio's special)


  • Virginie Scouting Mission down
  • Henri does the same
  • bring out Andrew Emory, Banjoko


  • Christine bleeds with Scouting Mission, stealths, and adds Conditioning, bleed of 4
  • Mariel Governs down
  • bring out Didi Meyers

Round 5


  • Life in the City on Vasilis
  • Julius bleeds for 1
  • Volker calls KRC with Closed Session, 3:1, gets Delaying Tactics from Kari
  • Volker bleeds for 1
  • Smudge bleeds for 1
  • Calebros bleeds for 1


  • no actions


  • Keith hunts
  • Antonio hunts
  • bring out Nephandus (Antonio's special)


  • Banjoko bleeds with Threats, bleed of 3
  • Virginie bleeds with Bonding, bleed of 3
  • Henri hunts


  • Christina bleeds with Scouting Mission + Conditioning, bleed of 4
  • Didi bleeds, gets Mask of 1000 Faces from Mariel who continues the bleed with Conditioning and Command of the Beast. Total bleed is 5, which gets Archon Investigation from Juhani, Mariel burns.
  • Didi bleeds with Govern + Threats, bleed of 5. Juhani is ousted
  • bring out Gloria Giovanni

Round 6


  • Hafsa plays Hakim's Law: Leadership


  • Nephandus bleeds for 1
  • Nephandus bleeds with Leverage + Empowering the Puppet King, bleed of 3 is bounced to Juho, Gloria blocks
  • Nephandus bleeds for 1
  • Nephandus bleeds for 1, Banjoko wakes and blocks
  • Antonio hunts
  • Keith hunts
  • bring out Nephandus (Antonio's special)


  • Banjoko plays Nocturn
  • Andrew plays Nocturn
  • Henri bleeds with Conditioning, bleed of 4
  • Banjoko bleeds with Govern + Threats, bleed of 5
  • Nocturn bleeds for 1, Juho is ousted
  • Andrew bleeds with Govern + Conditioning, bleed of 5
  • Nocturn bleeds for 1, Antti is ousted
  • Virginie plays Nocturn
  • Virginie hunts
  • pay 1 for new vampire

Round 7


  • Pentex on Henri
  • Nephandus bleeds, Nocturn blocks
  • Nephandus bleeds for 1
  • Nephandus bleeds with Puppet King, bleed of 2
  • Nephandus bleeds for 1
  • Antonio bleeds with Conditioning, bleed of 3
  • bring out Nephandus (Antonio's special)


  • Andrew removes Pentex (using stealth)
  • Banjoko plays Nocturn
  • Henri Scounting Missions down
  • Virginie Scounting Missions down
  • bring out Dame Hollerton

Round 8


  • Life in the City on Antonio
  • play Jake Washington
  • Keith hunts
  • Antonio hunts


  • Capitalist on Henri, gets Washed
  • (empty) Andrew hunts, Nephandus blocks (Aranthebes), dodge + dodge, Andrew still ready
  • Dame bleeds, Jake blocks and burns
  • Henri bleeds with Govern, Keith wakes and blocks, stealth, bleed of 3
  • Virginie hunts
  • Banjoko hunts

Round 9


  • Blood Doll on Keith
  • Nephandus gets Flash Grenade
  • Nephandus gets Flash Grenade
  • Nephandus gets Flash Grenade
  • Antonio hunts
  • Keith hunts


  • play Elysian Fields
  • Andrew hunts, Nephandus blocks (Aranthebes), stealth, hunt ok
  • Dame bleeds, Nephandus blocks, concealed Flash Grenade, Dame dodges, Nephandus uses FG
  • Virginie bleeds, Nephandus blocks, concealed Flash Grenade, Virginie dodges
  • Banjoko bleeds for 1
  • Henri bleeds for 2 with Scouting Mission

Round 10


  • play Dreams
  • Nephandus bleeds with Puppet King for 2
  • Keith hunts
  • Nephandus bleeds for 1
  • Nephandus bleeds, Dame wakes and burns Nephandus with Entombment


  • Vessel on Dame, gets Washed
  • Capitalist on Henri
  • Henri bleeds, gets stealth, Nephandus blocks (Aranthebes), Henri plays Entombment, Nephandus uses FG
  • Virginie bleeds, gets stealth, bleed for 2
  • Banjoko bleeds for 2 with Bonding
  • Andrew hunts

Round 11


  • Life in the City on Antonio
  • play University Hunting Ground
  • Keith hunts
  • Nephandus bleeds, Henri wakes and blocks, Henri goes to torpor
  • Nephandus burns Henri
  • Nephandus bleeds, Virginie wakes and blocks, Virginie goes to torpor
  • Nephandus bleeds for 1
  • Antonio bleeds, Dame blocks, concealed Flash Grenade, Antonio strikes with it
  • play Unmasking


  • play Political Hunting Ground
  • Banjoko bleeds, Nephandus blocks, stealth, Aranthebes, blocked. Banjoko dodges, Nephandus uses FG.
  • Andrew plays Nocturn
  • Andrew bleeds with Govern, Nephandus wakes (On the QV) and blocks

Round 12


  • Nephandus bleeds for 1
  • Nephandus bleeds for 1
  • play FBI Special Affairs Division


  • play Path of Night
  • Dame plays Nocturn, Nephandus blocks and plays concealed FG
  • Banjoko bleeds with Bonding and uses Elysian Fields, Nephandus blocks (Aranthebes)
  • Andrew bleeds, Nephandus wakes and blocks, Andrew goes to torpor

Round 13


  • Nephandus bleeds for 1
  • Nephandus Computer Hacks for 2, Lasse is ousted

Game ends at 2:29am, having taken 1:29 of game time. The final result is a draw between Lasse and Kari, but Lasse goes on to win the tournament due to higher preliminary round results.


Some pics from the tournament, by Marko Saari. If anyone has pics of the final round and/or of the finalists, let me know.

Photos by Jussi Hattara @Facebook

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